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	<title>Comments on: Wednesday after Pentecost  Romans 1:18-27     May 28/June 10 2009</title>
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		<title>By: Natalia Arzhantseva</title>
		<link>http://orthodox.net/redeemingthetime/2009/06/10/wednesday-after-pentecost/comment-page-1/#comment-1968</link>
		<dc:creator>Natalia Arzhantseva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 12:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>??????? ?????? ? ??????? ????? ???????????? ? ???? ???????. ???? ?? ?????????? ????, ??????? ??-?? ?????? ????? ?????? ?????????.
Father, what a descriptive story! How far I am from...But I realise God gives people what can serve the purpose of their salvation, and if I got impassivity i&#039;d have died out of pride...

I have another story close to what you have told us here:
Once there was a young woman standing on the bank of the river, and tow monks had to do the same. But she could not avoid without help. 
Their vow strictly prohibited them to approach or touch women, and the young monk demonstratively turned away from her. The old monk meanwhile approached the woman, lifted her &amp; carried her through the river &amp; left her there. The two monks proceeded the whole remaining way in silence, but very close to their monastery which they almost reached by that time, the young monk lost control of himself: &quot;How could you touch a woman?! You have given a vow!&quot; To which the old monk answered quitely: &quot;It&#039;s strange, I carried her through the river &amp; left her there, but you are still carrying her...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>??????? ?????? ? ??????? ????? ???????????? ? ???? ???????. ???? ?? ?????????? ????, ??????? ??-?? ?????? ????? ?????? ?????????.<br />
Father, what a descriptive story! How far I am from&#8230;But I realise God gives people what can serve the purpose of their salvation, and if I got impassivity i&#8217;d have died out of pride&#8230;</p>
<p>I have another story close to what you have told us here:<br />
Once there was a young woman standing on the bank of the river, and tow monks had to do the same. But she could not avoid without help.<br />
Their vow strictly prohibited them to approach or touch women, and the young monk demonstratively turned away from her. The old monk meanwhile approached the woman, lifted her &amp; carried her through the river &amp; left her there. The two monks proceeded the whole remaining way in silence, but very close to their monastery which they almost reached by that time, the young monk lost control of himself: &#8220;How could you touch a woman?! You have given a vow!&#8221; To which the old monk answered quitely: &#8220;It&#8217;s strange, I carried her through the river &amp; left her there, but you are still carrying her&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
		<link>http://orthodox.net/redeemingthetime/2009/06/10/wednesday-after-pentecost/comment-page-1/#comment-1967</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 12:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much, Father, Nicholas and Natasha....very enlightening exchange.</description>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 12:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have never guessed the interpretation of the eagles scripture on my own (which is, of course, why I need help).  

It makes sense: Just as vultures are attracted to the corruption and smell of death in an ordinary dead body, so are the righteous drawn to the incorrupt body of our Lord.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have never guessed the interpretation of the eagles scripture on my own (which is, of course, why I need help).  </p>
<p>It makes sense: Just as vultures are attracted to the corruption and smell of death in an ordinary dead body, so are the righteous drawn to the incorrupt body of our Lord.</p>
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		<title>By: seraphimholland</title>
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		<dc:creator>seraphimholland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 10:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am writing something about the eagles verse, but Nicholas has stolen much of my thunder. I think if you have the money, spending it on the four commentaties by blessed Theofylact would be a good thing. I went to these commentaries also to explain this verse. 

As for being tempted and being impure, I think we are always tempted, no matter how pure we are. The pure deflect temptations without effort. This even happend with us regular folk. When you go to a store, you CAN steal, but most of us so not even consider it, or feel any desire to do so. We were presented with a temptation, but did not &quot;feel&quot; it. 

With sexual temptation, many of us feel different degrees of desire and must repeall the temptation with differing degrees of effort. I remember a story about this. 

Two monks were walking back to their cells after selling basckets. A prostitute was walking towards them. The younger monk hid his face in his cowl, so as not to see her, and be tempted. The older monk, his spiritual father, greeted the woman as he passed by. The younger one inwardly judged his father, thinking that he had lusted. The older one, knowing this, asked his son what he had just seen. The younger one stammered an answer, and the old man replied that as for himself, he dod not know if the person who had just passed was a man or a woman! 

Both monks stayed free from sin, but the older one was free from the passion which leads to sin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am writing something about the eagles verse, but Nicholas has stolen much of my thunder. I think if you have the money, spending it on the four commentaties by blessed Theofylact would be a good thing. I went to these commentaries also to explain this verse. </p>
<p>As for being tempted and being impure, I think we are always tempted, no matter how pure we are. The pure deflect temptations without effort. This even happend with us regular folk. When you go to a store, you CAN steal, but most of us so not even consider it, or feel any desire to do so. We were presented with a temptation, but did not &#8220;feel&#8221; it. </p>
<p>With sexual temptation, many of us feel different degrees of desire and must repeall the temptation with differing degrees of effort. I remember a story about this. </p>
<p>Two monks were walking back to their cells after selling basckets. A prostitute was walking towards them. The younger monk hid his face in his cowl, so as not to see her, and be tempted. The older monk, his spiritual father, greeted the woman as he passed by. The younger one inwardly judged his father, thinking that he had lusted. The older one, knowing this, asked his son what he had just seen. The younger one stammered an answer, and the old man replied that as for himself, he dod not know if the person who had just passed was a man or a woman! </p>
<p>Both monks stayed free from sin, but the older one was free from the passion which leads to sin.</p>
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		<title>By: Natalia Arzhantseva</title>
		<link>http://orthodox.net/redeemingthetime/2009/06/10/wednesday-after-pentecost/comment-page-1/#comment-1964</link>
		<dc:creator>Natalia Arzhantseva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 06:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you!!!! 
Wishing you a lovely day &amp; all the blessings!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you!!!!<br />
Wishing you a lovely day &amp; all the blessings!</p>
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		<title>By: Rdr. Nicholas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rdr. Nicholas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 01:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;For wheresoever the corpse is, there will the eagles be gathered together&quot; (Matt 24:28). The context of this is Christ&#039;s admonition to his disciples that they should not believe people who say &quot;Lo, here is Christ,&quot; since his coming will be openly manifest to all, like lightening. Blessed Theophylact says, &quot;and as the eagles, that is, the vultures, swiftly converge on a corpse, so too all the saints, who soar in the heights, will come where Christ will be and they will be snatched up into the clouds as the eagles. Certainly the corpse is Christ Who died for us and lay as a corpse.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For wheresoever the corpse is, there will the eagles be gathered together&#8221; (Matt 24:28). The context of this is Christ&#8217;s admonition to his disciples that they should not believe people who say &#8220;Lo, here is Christ,&#8221; since his coming will be openly manifest to all, like lightening. Blessed Theophylact says, &#8220;and as the eagles, that is, the vultures, swiftly converge on a corpse, so too all the saints, who soar in the heights, will come where Christ will be and they will be snatched up into the clouds as the eagles. Certainly the corpse is Christ Who died for us and lay as a corpse.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Natasha, this is just my &#039;two cents&#039; as we say (meaning &#039;my little opinion, for what it&#039;s worth&#039;) but after posting about temptations being attracted to a spiritually weak person (or a person who is weak in a particular area of his spiritual life), this verse came to mind and I finally had a glimmer of understanding about it, and I thought of how it might apply in this discussion:

Our dead, rotting flesh clings to us (&quot;Who will save me from this body of death?!&quot; cries St. Paul) It must either be amputated or healed and restored to life, because the stench of rotting flesh attracts scavenging and predatory birds.  In other words, our spiritual weaknesses attract temptation, demons, and other destructive things into our lives.  

What is dead is fit only to be picked apart by the eagles or cast into the fire and burned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Natasha, this is just my &#8216;two cents&#8217; as we say (meaning &#8216;my little opinion, for what it&#8217;s worth&#8217;) but after posting about temptations being attracted to a spiritually weak person (or a person who is weak in a particular area of his spiritual life), this verse came to mind and I finally had a glimmer of understanding about it, and I thought of how it might apply in this discussion:</p>
<p>Our dead, rotting flesh clings to us (&#8220;Who will save me from this body of death?!&#8221; cries St. Paul) It must either be amputated or healed and restored to life, because the stench of rotting flesh attracts scavenging and predatory birds.  In other words, our spiritual weaknesses attract temptation, demons, and other destructive things into our lives.  </p>
<p>What is dead is fit only to be picked apart by the eagles or cast into the fire and burned.</p>
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		<title>By: Natalia Arzhantseva</title>
		<link>http://orthodox.net/redeemingthetime/2009/06/10/wednesday-after-pentecost/comment-page-1/#comment-1959</link>
		<dc:creator>Natalia Arzhantseva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 19:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Father, bless!
this verse, quoted by Deborah, has been a puzzle to me too, all the time. and I don&#039;t know why, I never asked anyone competent the exact meaning of it...During different times of my life I tried to explain it to myself (though I know I should have looked after the answer in the interpretations by the Holy Fathers, not to try to interprete by myself). Though I understand it in the current period of my life as follows: i regard the &quot;carcass&quot; as a dead soul, i.e. the soul of the person who committed a mortal sin &amp; did not repent, and &quot;eagles&quot; as demons who gather tohether to devour it, as they obtain power over this soul, which belonged to them even in this temporary world due to the unrepented sin, and belongs to them after the person died and his soul has gone from his body to the realm which it prepared for itself here.  
I am far from being sure, of course, whether this has something sensible! 
And what Deborah says leads me to the thought it can be also explained: the soul, which is in the power of dirty &amp; sinful thoughts, becomes dead to anything divine, it is slowly but gradually  polluted by the poison of thoughts &amp; passions, and finally becomes helpless under the onslaught of demons, and they tear the poo soul apart, like eagles do with the dead body. 
Unfortunately I don&#039;t know where to look up for the correct interpretation by the Holy Fathers, if you can give me a reference, I&#039;d be happy. As well as for any your comment &amp; advice; or Nicholas&#039;s, or anyone&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Father, bless!<br />
this verse, quoted by Deborah, has been a puzzle to me too, all the time. and I don&#8217;t know why, I never asked anyone competent the exact meaning of it&#8230;During different times of my life I tried to explain it to myself (though I know I should have looked after the answer in the interpretations by the Holy Fathers, not to try to interprete by myself). Though I understand it in the current period of my life as follows: i regard the &#8220;carcass&#8221; as a dead soul, i.e. the soul of the person who committed a mortal sin &amp; did not repent, and &#8220;eagles&#8221; as demons who gather tohether to devour it, as they obtain power over this soul, which belonged to them even in this temporary world due to the unrepented sin, and belongs to them after the person died and his soul has gone from his body to the realm which it prepared for itself here.<br />
I am far from being sure, of course, whether this has something sensible!<br />
And what Deborah says leads me to the thought it can be also explained: the soul, which is in the power of dirty &amp; sinful thoughts, becomes dead to anything divine, it is slowly but gradually  polluted by the poison of thoughts &amp; passions, and finally becomes helpless under the onslaught of demons, and they tear the poo soul apart, like eagles do with the dead body.<br />
Unfortunately I don&#8217;t know where to look up for the correct interpretation by the Holy Fathers, if you can give me a reference, I&#8217;d be happy. As well as for any your comment &amp; advice; or Nicholas&#8217;s, or anyone&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
		<link>http://orthodox.net/redeemingthetime/2009/06/10/wednesday-after-pentecost/comment-page-1/#comment-1958</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 14:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thinking of this has reminded me of this verse that has always puzzled me:

&quot;For wherever the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together.&quot; Matthew 24:28</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thinking of this has reminded me of this verse that has always puzzled me:</p>
<p>&#8220;For wherever the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together.&#8221; Matthew 24:28</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
		<link>http://orthodox.net/redeemingthetime/2009/06/10/wednesday-after-pentecost/comment-page-1/#comment-1957</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 13:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been trying to reconcile what Father Seraphim said, &quot;Sexual lust of all kinds can be a very strong and persistent temptation, and to even have this temptation is a sign to us that we are not yet righteous&quot; and the fact that temptations, themselves are not sins and not necessarily an indication of a lack of righteousness.

I think I may now understand what Father Seraphim was saying (and I hope he corrects me if I have missed something).  Returning to my analogy of birds flying overhead as temptations: If the birds are not allowed to land in our tree they do not become sins, but simply something to be guarded against.  If however it is not a single bird that occasionally flies over the tree, but a whole flock that is continuously gathering and circling overhead, then that is an indication that there is something in the tree, itself, that is attracting them.  Whatever it is, whether it be rot within the branches or some unholy fruit that the branch is bearing, the branches that are attracting the birds must be pruned.  

So it is not that the temptations themselves are sin and unrighteousness but the fact that continuous and constant distraction and harassment by particular temptations indicates a sinful weakness and lack of righteousness in ourselves that must be acknowledged and eliminated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been trying to reconcile what Father Seraphim said, &#8220;Sexual lust of all kinds can be a very strong and persistent temptation, and to even have this temptation is a sign to us that we are not yet righteous&#8221; and the fact that temptations, themselves are not sins and not necessarily an indication of a lack of righteousness.</p>
<p>I think I may now understand what Father Seraphim was saying (and I hope he corrects me if I have missed something).  Returning to my analogy of birds flying overhead as temptations: If the birds are not allowed to land in our tree they do not become sins, but simply something to be guarded against.  If however it is not a single bird that occasionally flies over the tree, but a whole flock that is continuously gathering and circling overhead, then that is an indication that there is something in the tree, itself, that is attracting them.  Whatever it is, whether it be rot within the branches or some unholy fruit that the branch is bearing, the branches that are attracting the birds must be pruned.  </p>
<p>So it is not that the temptations themselves are sin and unrighteousness but the fact that continuous and constant distraction and harassment by particular temptations indicates a sinful weakness and lack of righteousness in ourselves that must be acknowledged and eliminated.</p>
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		<title>By: Natalia Arzhantseva</title>
		<link>http://orthodox.net/redeemingthetime/2009/06/10/wednesday-after-pentecost/comment-page-1/#comment-1954</link>
		<dc:creator>Natalia Arzhantseva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, all of you!</description>
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		<title>By: Rdr. Nicholas</title>
		<link>http://orthodox.net/redeemingthetime/2009/06/10/wednesday-after-pentecost/comment-page-1/#comment-1952</link>
		<dc:creator>Rdr. Nicholas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 00:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another of the fathers says that only the first stage is guiltless - the stage at which thoughts present themselves. Once you allow yourself to engage, or carry on a conversation with, the idea, then this is already sinful to some extent -- although it is not as bad as assenting to it in thought or committing it in deed.

This is not something that we can really understand just by being told about it or applying rational categories. The fathers speak from the real experience of attention to themselves, and they can only be really understood by being similarly attentive, so the rest of us to some extent simply have to trust them, and try not to sin...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another of the fathers says that only the first stage is guiltless &#8211; the stage at which thoughts present themselves. Once you allow yourself to engage, or carry on a conversation with, the idea, then this is already sinful to some extent &#8212; although it is not as bad as assenting to it in thought or committing it in deed.</p>
<p>This is not something that we can really understand just by being told about it or applying rational categories. The fathers speak from the real experience of attention to themselves, and they can only be really understood by being similarly attentive, so the rest of us to some extent simply have to trust them, and try not to sin&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Nicholas. An excellent quote ...it reminds me of what James said about lust giving birth to sin which, in turn gives birth to death.  

But what I would next ask about the quote is at which point are we talking temptation and which point sin?  My guess is that the provocation is temptation and our responses of coupling and assent are the sin.  &quot;Captivity and passion grown habitual and continuous&quot; are the results of sin and the road to death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Nicholas. An excellent quote &#8230;it reminds me of what James said about lust giving birth to sin which, in turn gives birth to death.  </p>
<p>But what I would next ask about the quote is at which point are we talking temptation and which point sin?  My guess is that the provocation is temptation and our responses of coupling and assent are the sin.  &#8220;Captivity and passion grown habitual and continuous&#8221; are the results of sin and the road to death.</p>
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		<title>By: Rdr. Nicholas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rdr. Nicholas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The following quote may help, Deborah.

First there is provocation; then a coupling with the provocation; then assent to it; then captivity to it; then passion,grown habitual and continuous. This is how the holy fathers describe the stages through which the devil gets the better of us.&quot; 

St. Philotheos of Sinai, Forty Texts on Watchfulness #34

http://www.orthodox.net/gleanings/temptation.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following quote may help, Deborah.</p>
<p>First there is provocation; then a coupling with the provocation; then assent to it; then captivity to it; then passion,grown habitual and continuous. This is how the holy fathers describe the stages through which the devil gets the better of us.&#8221; </p>
<p>St. Philotheos of Sinai, Forty Texts on Watchfulness #34</p>
<p><a href="http://www.orthodox.net/gleanings/temptation.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.orthodox.net/gleanings/temptation.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Natalia Arzhantseva</title>
		<link>http://orthodox.net/redeemingthetime/2009/06/10/wednesday-after-pentecost/comment-page-1/#comment-1948</link>
		<dc:creator>Natalia Arzhantseva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 06:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Father, bless!
I felt that the lack of sexual temptation is a sign of impassivity, and righteousness is when a person fights to resist temptations (this one as well), keeps off dirty thoughts, and of course does not fall into the sin. Of course, righteousness is a much wider notion, and I observe only this narrow aspect.
Deborah questions are actual in this respect. In my head her question is tansformed into the following one: can righteousness be equaed with impassivity? As I feel, righteousness can be a part of impassivity in very rare righteous people, but a righteous person can be at a stage when he is not yet achieved impassivity. As impassivity is the highest stage of virtue, which can be achieved with very few ones. Can you please identify the difference or nuances if any?
These thoughts are complicated as they are not thoughts actually, to fight with which we can with efforts of our heart &amp; mind, the situation is aggravated because this is an instinct, and people who try to fight with it do it during practically all their lives. But some people have a different nature, and this instinct is only slightly developed, and they face another temptation - they can feel themselves righteous when they lose it totally in the course of some time, though in reality it&#039;s not because they are righteous &amp; fought against it, but due to their physical nature. 
Thank you so much. I am a bit perplexed....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Father, bless!<br />
I felt that the lack of sexual temptation is a sign of impassivity, and righteousness is when a person fights to resist temptations (this one as well), keeps off dirty thoughts, and of course does not fall into the sin. Of course, righteousness is a much wider notion, and I observe only this narrow aspect.<br />
Deborah questions are actual in this respect. In my head her question is tansformed into the following one: can righteousness be equaed with impassivity? As I feel, righteousness can be a part of impassivity in very rare righteous people, but a righteous person can be at a stage when he is not yet achieved impassivity. As impassivity is the highest stage of virtue, which can be achieved with very few ones. Can you please identify the difference or nuances if any?<br />
These thoughts are complicated as they are not thoughts actually, to fight with which we can with efforts of our heart &amp; mind, the situation is aggravated because this is an instinct, and people who try to fight with it do it during practically all their lives. But some people have a different nature, and this instinct is only slightly developed, and they face another temptation &#8211; they can feel themselves righteous when they lose it totally in the course of some time, though in reality it&#8217;s not because they are righteous &amp; fought against it, but due to their physical nature.<br />
Thank you so much. I am a bit perplexed&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, my questions are mostly &#039;academic&#039; since no matter what the answers are I know I still lack righteousness.  But I have long been puzzled with the difference between temptation and sin, knowing that our Lord was tempted but without sin...and wondered if some types of temptations might not, in fact, increase as a person approached righteousness.  Can the number and type of our temptations (not sin) be a gauge of righteousness?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, my questions are mostly &#8216;academic&#8217; since no matter what the answers are I know I still lack righteousness.  But I have long been puzzled with the difference between temptation and sin, knowing that our Lord was tempted but without sin&#8230;and wondered if some types of temptations might not, in fact, increase as a person approached righteousness.  Can the number and type of our temptations (not sin) be a gauge of righteousness?</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Sexual lust of all kinds can be a very strong and persistent temptation, and to even have this temptation is a sign to us that we are not yet righteous

Father, Bless,
I have a couple of questions about this:

1)I know you are not saying that to have any temptation is a sign of unrighteousness, since our Lord was tempted---so what would make a temptation to sexual lust more of a sign of unrighteousness than other type of temptation? Or are you saying that to be *persistently* tempted by these types of sins is the sign of a lack of righteousness?

2)I have heard it said &quot;You cannot help having birds fly over your head but you can keep them from building nests in your hair&quot;  So is a thought always a sin or is it the dwelling on a thought that makes a temptation become a sin?

Thank You,
Deborah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Sexual lust of all kinds can be a very strong and persistent temptation, and to even have this temptation is a sign to us that we are not yet righteous</p>
<p>Father, Bless,<br />
I have a couple of questions about this:</p>
<p>1)I know you are not saying that to have any temptation is a sign of unrighteousness, since our Lord was tempted&#8212;so what would make a temptation to sexual lust more of a sign of unrighteousness than other type of temptation? Or are you saying that to be *persistently* tempted by these types of sins is the sign of a lack of righteousness?</p>
<p>2)I have heard it said &#8220;You cannot help having birds fly over your head but you can keep them from building nests in your hair&#8221;  So is a thought always a sin or is it the dwelling on a thought that makes a temptation become a sin?</p>
<p>Thank You,<br />
Deborah</p>
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