Comments on: Old Testament references to the Cross. 4th Week of Great Lent – Friday Matins http://orthodox.net/redeemingthetime/2009/03/27/old-testament-references-to-the-cross-4th-week-of-great-lent-%e2%80%93-friday-matins/ McKinney TX Homilies, scripture commentary, spiritual reflections Tue, 14 May 2013 00:17:08 +0000 hourly 1 By: Dn. Nicholas http://orthodox.net/redeemingthetime/2009/03/27/old-testament-references-to-the-cross-4th-week-of-great-lent-%e2%80%93-friday-matins/comment-page-1/#comment-18237 Dn. Nicholas Wed, 21 Sep 2011 12:30:47 +0000 http://orthodox.net/redeemingthetime/?p=775#comment-18237 Jerry, like all prophecies, the OT types of the cross are subtle - this is why we need the tradition to help us see them. So yes, the pole with the serpent is a type (symbol, prophecy) of the cross. So is: - the wood which sweetened the bitter water - the cross-like way in which Moses held out his arms while fighting Amalek - the cross-like manner in which Israel blessed the sons of Joseph - the letter "tau" which was marked on the lintels at the Exodus - the way Moses held his staff to part and re-join the waters of the Red Sea: first he held it one direction, then perpendicular to that. and so forth : ). Jerry, like all prophecies, the OT types of the cross are subtle – this is why we need the tradition to help us see them. So yes, the pole with the serpent is a type (symbol, prophecy) of the cross. So is:
- the wood which sweetened the bitter water
- the cross-like way in which Moses held out his arms while fighting Amalek
- the cross-like manner in which Israel blessed the sons of Joseph
- the letter "tau" which was marked on the lintels at the Exodus
- the way Moses held his staff to part and re-join the waters of the Red Sea: first he held it one direction, then perpendicular to that.
and so forth : ).

]]> By: jerry williams.evangelist http://orthodox.net/redeemingthetime/2009/03/27/old-testament-references-to-the-cross-4th-week-of-great-lent-%e2%80%93-friday-matins/comment-page-1/#comment-18229 jerry williams.evangelist Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:50:41 +0000 http://orthodox.net/redeemingthetime/?p=775#comment-18229 where in the bible the cross.i see pole , not the cross this is in num:21;9.are the pole and the cross are the same? where in the bible the cross.i see pole , not the cross
this is in num:21;9.are the pole and the cross are the same?

]]> By: Old Testament references to the Cross. 4th Week of Great Lent – Friday Matins | World religions http://orthodox.net/redeemingthetime/2009/03/27/old-testament-references-to-the-cross-4th-week-of-great-lent-%e2%80%93-friday-matins/comment-page-1/#comment-1650 Old Testament references to the Cross. 4th Week of Great Lent – Friday Matins | World religions Tue, 07 Apr 2009 05:06:49 +0000 http://orthodox.net/redeemingthetime/?p=775#comment-1650 [...] Thank you to Deborah, whose comment when this article was originally posted on the blog Redeeming the Time inspired much of this short [...] [...] Thank you to Deborah, whose comment when this article was originally posted on the blog Redeeming the Time inspired much of this short [...]

]]> By: seraphimholland http://orthodox.net/redeemingthetime/2009/03/27/old-testament-references-to-the-cross-4th-week-of-great-lent-%e2%80%93-friday-matins/comment-page-1/#comment-1636 seraphimholland Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:33:45 +0000 http://orthodox.net/redeemingthetime/?p=775#comment-1636 Great points, Deborah! They caused me to update the article. I hope that this will happebn many times, as the collective wisdom of our readers is expressed in comments. Great points, Deborah! They caused me to update the article. I hope that this will happebn many times, as the collective wisdom of our readers is expressed in comments.

]]> By: Deborah http://orthodox.net/redeemingthetime/2009/03/27/old-testament-references-to-the-cross-4th-week-of-great-lent-%e2%80%93-friday-matins/comment-page-1/#comment-1635 Deborah Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:31:54 +0000 http://orthodox.net/redeemingthetime/?p=775#comment-1635 There is no reason why we should not know all of these references to Christ and the cross from the OT since it tells us in the NT that on the road to Emmaus, "beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he [Christ] explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself." Lk 24:27 A few of these references are mentioned in the NT scripture but even Protestants recognize references to Him that aren't mentioned in NT scripture. So obviously we didn't get all the references handed down to us through NT scripture---the rest of "all the Scriptures concerning himself" had to have been passed down through oral means, starting with Cleopas and his companion who walked with Jesus on the road to Emmaus. There is no reason why we should not know all of these references to Christ and the cross from the OT since it tells us in the NT that on the road to Emmaus, “beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he [Christ] explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself.” Lk 24:27

A few of these references are mentioned in the NT scripture but even Protestants recognize references to Him that aren’t mentioned in NT scripture. So obviously we didn’t get all the references handed down to us through NT scripture—the rest of “all the Scriptures concerning himself” had to have been passed down through oral means, starting with Cleopas and his companion who walked with Jesus on the road to Emmaus.

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